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Look, I can't PM all three of you, but I'm really disappointed you and Ron didn't think of a way to let Draco know what was happening.
He could have humoured Patil long enough to get her help. He could have avoided her or at least told St M's that he thought it was a potion. Did any of you think to trust him not to only tell what he needed to tell, without getting any of the Order into trouble?
And even if he didn't have to tell anyone, he deserved to know why she was going after him. He thought it was his challenge!
It wasn't right to do that to Patil, either. She's a horrible cow but no one deserves being forced to humiliate themselves in public. Terry and I should know. And certainly no one deserves to be driven to try to commit suicide. Someone should have been ready to watch for a reaction like that. Love potions are really dangerous, even mild ones. And it's positively cruel to play with someone's feelings, no matter what the reason.
I know you have a history with her but that's all it was: Cruel. And unfair to Draco, too. And I thought you were all better than that.
That's all.
He could have humoured Patil long enough to get her help. He could have avoided her or at least told St M's that he thought it was a potion. Did any of you think to trust him not to only tell what he needed to tell, without getting any of the Order into trouble?
And even if he didn't have to tell anyone, he deserved to know why she was going after him. He thought it was his challenge!
It wasn't right to do that to Patil, either. She's a horrible cow but no one deserves being forced to humiliate themselves in public. Terry and I should know. And certainly no one deserves to be driven to try to commit suicide. Someone should have been ready to watch for a reaction like that. Love potions are really dangerous, even mild ones. And it's positively cruel to play with someone's feelings, no matter what the reason.
I know you have a history with her but that's all it was: Cruel. And unfair to Draco, too. And I thought you were all better than that.
That's all.
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Date: 2014-04-27 01:56 am (UTC)I didn't know Padma'd tried to commit suicide. And I'm sorry to hear that. And maybe we should've told Draco about it last night, once she started clinging to him, but we thought it was obvious that it was a potion, and that her friends or the half-dozen Healers in the crowd would handle things.
Ugh. What a mess.
Anyways, yes, I'm sorry we didn't tell Draco last night, and that it got to be such a trouble for him today, and I'll tell him. I do think he was overreacting, though. Threatening to quit and everything, I mean. Do you think there might be something else going on that'd set him off like that?
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Date: 2014-04-27 01:59 am (UTC)And I guess it wasn't as obvious to everyone else as it was to you, but then no one else knew you'd done anything.
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Date: 2014-04-27 03:09 am (UTC)It wasn't a targeted potion. If it HAD been a targeted potion, Ron wouldn't have targeted Draco. It was supposed to make her go after her 'heart's desire' and there was absolutely no reason to believe it was Draco until she started following him around, at which point there was no way to tell him discreetly because he was ignoring his journal completely last night.
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Date: 2014-04-27 03:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-27 03:22 am (UTC)Which is why I find it baffling that her friends couldn't tell. Or maybe they could, but were perfectly happy to see her humiliated because secretly they can't stand her either. (And SERIOUSLY you're going to lecture us on humiliating Patil? The people in the challenge are supposed to be AUDITIONING TO BE DEATH EATERS, humiliating a vicious pureblooded mean girl at a party is ... just about the least-awful thing Ron could have done without failing this challenge outright. He needs to fail 'gracefully' and I think some people in the Order are not aware of just how delicate a balance that is.)
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Date: 2014-04-27 03:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-27 03:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-27 03:45 am (UTC)Damn it, Sally-Anne. We're supposed to be better than they are.
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Date: 2014-04-27 03:48 am (UTC)This WAS the creative way to meet that challenge that didn't compromise common decency. (That was NOT supposed to target Draco.)
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Date: 2014-04-27 03:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-27 12:36 pm (UTC)Have you forgotten the time I had to go about with 'Filthy Mudblood' on my forehead? Or when Carrow made Terry's clothes disappear? There are loads of awful things that have happened or could happen. We've endured them before and will again.
The point isn't about shaming her publicly (though I still say that it just makes you as mean as the person you're shaming). It's having done it in a way that robs her of her self-control. I'm sure it was funny at the time, and I'm not saying I wouldn't have laughed, too, but I would have laughed harder if it was something she'd brought on by herself, instead of being forced to behave so ridiculously.
You could have come up with any number of solutions that didn't involve taking away her choices. If the idea was to harm her in the standings, you could have convinced or confunded some of the sponsors so they'd hate her and downgrade her on the next few challenges. You could have cast an illiteracy hex on her when the next round came, so she couldn't read the assignment. You could have obliviated her memory of her next task. You could have snapped her wand, or damaged it somehow so that she couldn't cast spells correctly.
And if we'd all been talking about it together, we might have come up with one of those options. Even if we'd decided in the end that this was the best possible course, then at least the others would have been prepared for it. I don't just mean Draco, I mean him and Hydra and Madam Pomfrey and Professor Sprout--everyone who was there.
I know you absolutely hate to admit when you're wrong, Sally-Anne, but...you're wrong this time, about this.
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Date: 2014-04-27 03:47 am (UTC)Though I'm sorry that happened to you.