alt_hermione: Hermione knows what she's doing (Default)
[personal profile] alt_hermione
Terry didn't see everything they did.

He said they did a Fidelius charm. So that is why the castle disappeared. And they did some more blood binding spells. They took his blood and put it on parchment and then wrote words over the blood stains, not with the blood, just over it, and they used a steel quill. And then they mixed pieces of the parchment with a potion and Professor Carrow drank it.

Do you think owls can get through a Fidelius charm?



Will we ever be able to try and get Terry out again?
 


Date: 2011-08-03 04:34 pm (UTC)
alt_sirius: (Sincere)
From: [personal profile] alt_sirius
A Fidelius would certainly explain the castle disappearing before everyone's eyes.

And why he wanted his sister to come on the double.

We'll worry about those binding spells in time, Hermione, I promise. But right now we need you to tell us how Terry says he found this woman, and what she told him about herself. Is it the same tale she told me yesterday? It's important that we know for sure. And don't tell Terry what she told us. Get it from him as a separate account.

We need to know for sure we can believe her.

Personally, I think the odds of the two of them meeting each other are just too fantastical to be a Ministry plant or something. But before we can trust her completely we need a bit more evidence.

Date: 2011-08-03 04:59 pm (UTC)
alt_kingsley: (Agent Double-O-Soul)
From: [personal profile] alt_kingsley
That's certainly in line with what she has told us, too.

Is the boy all right otherwise, Hermione? Carrow isn't punishing him?

Date: 2011-08-03 05:01 pm (UTC)
alt_bill: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_bill
Which Professor Carrow drank it, did he say? Alecto or Amycus?

I wonder if the two spells were linked, if it makes any difference if it's the secretkeeper who drank it.

Date: 2011-08-03 06:46 pm (UTC)
alt_bill: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_bill
Hmm. Then it probably doesn't have anything to do with the fidelius charm.

Can a blood binding curse be broken if he manages the animagus transformation? Sirius, what do you think? Or would Remus or Snape know, or Macnair? I don't know much about that branch of dark magic.

Date: 2011-08-03 06:49 pm (UTC)
alt_arthur: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_arthur
It might depend on how he worded the binding. Something to the effect of 'bind this mudblood boy' then the binding might break if Terry turns into something else. Possibly?

Date: 2011-08-03 06:53 pm (UTC)
alt_lupin: (intent)
From: [personal profile] alt_lupin
It depends on the curse.

Many binding curses would be broken by the very nature of an animagus transformation. It's not an illusion, you understand: your body transforms into that of an animal's, though you retain human capacities for thought. That effectively transforms who you are on a very basic level, which means this sort of binding would no longer apply.

For that same reason it's extremely difficult to put a binding on a werewolf, at least one that lasts more than a single lunar cycle. There are a few, but there are other ways to break those.

Date: 2011-08-03 06:58 pm (UTC)
alt_sirius: (intense)
From: [personal profile] alt_sirius
Exactly my thought, Remus.

Hermione, tell him he's got to master that transformation. He's been working on it, I know, but even if we were to figure out a way in, at this point, without knowing what manner of evil Carrow's done to him we can't be sure what would happen if we took him away.

Tell him not to give up on it. And we're not giving up, either.

Date: 2011-08-03 06:59 pm (UTC)
alt_bill: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_bill
That means, until we figure a way to get around the fidelius charm (and I don't know of any), his best chance probably would be mastering the animagus transformation.

Unless we can figure a way to trick Alecto. That's more likely than trying to suborn her.

Date: 2011-08-03 07:00 pm (UTC)
alt_arthur: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_arthur
Well, will he be able to keep up the fidelius for very long? What happens every time he needs groceries delivered?

Date: 2011-08-03 07:03 pm (UTC)
alt_bill: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_bill
If they have a regular delivery, I suppose she'll have to tell the driver the information. Not too much of a problem if it's the same people every week.

There are the prisoners, too.

You're right. Perhaps he'll find it too inconvenient to keep up for long, especially if she continues at Hogwarts.

Date: 2011-08-03 07:26 pm (UTC)
alt_frank: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_frank
we could also see what we could do to make it all very inconvenient on the both of them -- a break in the supply chain, getting the regular delivery person sick

perhaps even putting one of us in his place

Date: 2011-08-03 07:31 pm (UTC)
alt_frank: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alt_frank
you're right, though, getting in wouldn't insure we'd be able to get him out.

Date: 2011-08-03 07:51 pm (UTC)
alt_alice: (lookingupangelic)
From: [personal profile] alt_alice
Hermione, love, Moddey Dhoo is under the Fidelius charm, and we get owls all the time. So yes, that part is most definitely possible.

I think the thing we're most concerned with now is sorting out the dark magic that might be binding Terry either to Carrow or to the castle itself which might make it difficult for him to leave. But we will keep trying, and the animagus transformation is just one possibility.

The more he can remember about what was done, the better we'll be able to help unravel it. But trust, love, we will keep trying.

Date: 2011-08-04 03:08 pm (UTC)
alt_alice: (lookingupangelic)
From: [personal profile] alt_alice
That will help a great deal, Hermione. Between Severus and Stephen, I'm sure they'll be able to sort out what's happened. You send that phial to Frank and me, and we'll be sure it gets taken care of.

Date: 2011-08-04 03:09 pm (UTC)
alt_alice: (lookingupangelic)
From: [personal profile] alt_alice
Will he need an owl to use?

We can send him one of ours, as long as it would be safe.

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